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		<title>By: Prof P</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, I think that Lee Ann&#039;s comments are good. Here&#039;s an observation. CHNM&#039;s site, like Topsy, has grown willy nilly, so it&#039;s the infomation architecture that needs rethinking. As Lee Ann says, it&#039;s the organization. How do you get all that stuff in a form that will promote visitor&#039;s exploration of the site or their ability to find things? Once the you&#039;ve figured out the architecture, a design should emerge. Yeah, I know this sounds like faith-based design, but it works.

I (and a whole lot of other designers) don&#039;t find reversed out type effective--and with good reason. It&#039;s difficult to read. (Yes, some sighted-impaired visitors will benefit, although they might find a 75% gray even better.) To make reversed out work, the type needs to be enlarged and tracked. Often this is difficult in site in which there is a lot of text. You simply run out of room.

You worked on the home page for your project, but it is one page in a very large, text-heavy site. Think about how difficult reading all the reversed out text would be on the &quot;About&quot; page. You can be edgy without reversing out text. CSS Zen Garden is great, but it is also high concept design--designers strutting their stuff. (The Garden designs use a lot of position:absolute, but that doesn&#039;t mean we should all run out and use absolute positioning in our sites.) But that&#039;s not to say that reversed out type can&#039;t work. Most designers recommend moderation. 

As for design as personal opinion. Nope. There are visual arguments that are successful, and there are visual arguments that are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, I think that Lee Ann&#8217;s comments are good. Here&#8217;s an observation. CHNM&#8217;s site, like Topsy, has grown willy nilly, so it&#8217;s the infomation architecture that needs rethinking. As Lee Ann says, it&#8217;s the organization. How do you get all that stuff in a form that will promote visitor&#8217;s exploration of the site or their ability to find things? Once the you&#8217;ve figured out the architecture, a design should emerge. Yeah, I know this sounds like faith-based design, but it works.</p>
<p>I (and a whole lot of other designers) don&#8217;t find reversed out type effective&#8211;and with good reason. It&#8217;s difficult to read. (Yes, some sighted-impaired visitors will benefit, although they might find a 75% gray even better.) To make reversed out work, the type needs to be enlarged and tracked. Often this is difficult in site in which there is a lot of text. You simply run out of room.</p>
<p>You worked on the home page for your project, but it is one page in a very large, text-heavy site. Think about how difficult reading all the reversed out text would be on the &#8220;About&#8221; page. You can be edgy without reversing out text. CSS Zen Garden is great, but it is also high concept design&#8211;designers strutting their stuff. (The Garden designs use a lot of position:absolute, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we should all run out and use absolute positioning in our sites.) But that&#8217;s not to say that reversed out type can&#8217;t work. Most designers recommend moderation. </p>
<p>As for design as personal opinion. Nope. There are visual arguments that are successful, and there are visual arguments that are not.</p>
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		<title>By: lee ann ghajar</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee ann ghajar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, speaking as one whose design was a TOTAL surprise last night (and yes, it really did pass XHTML and CSS validation--but still has a fatal flaw that REQUIRES me to set a height requirement for the wrapper--anyway, enough about that), here&#039;s what I think about your design.  

One of your many areas of expertise is organization, I think. With CHNM, you&#039;ve demonstrated that--it&#039;s a huge organizational jungle to bring under control--and you&#039;ve put it in a cutting edge format.  No question.  I particularly like the Projects Section--the use of graphics to emphasize the content. I can quickly see what&#039;s there and the individual graphics give me a sense of the individuality of each project.

Here&#039;s what would make it easier for me, I think.  More touches of color--highlights to quickly draw my eye where you&#039;d like it to go and to differentiate categories of links--just as you have with the Projects section.

Give me a more obvious introduction to CHNM--I don&#039;t see that introductory paragraph amid the many things to look at on the page, and if I am not going to that site deliberately, I might like the intro paragraph to be more obvious. Also, in some ways, it&#039;s a marketing tool for the University, so I&#039;d want to be sure the rationale was clear--brief, but clear. Maybe it just needs a header itself?

The masthead makes me think we&#039;re a third world site--maybe just ditch the impossible task of summarizing world history and focus on the new media imagery or program imagery?

This doesn&#039;t seem as if you fell short at all, especially for the first outing...it seems as if you tackled a gigantic project and one of the hardest kind to do, and brought a new perspective to it--that&#039;s what makes it such a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, speaking as one whose design was a TOTAL surprise last night (and yes, it really did pass XHTML and CSS validation&#8211;but still has a fatal flaw that REQUIRES me to set a height requirement for the wrapper&#8211;anyway, enough about that), here&#8217;s what I think about your design.  </p>
<p>One of your many areas of expertise is organization, I think. With CHNM, you&#8217;ve demonstrated that&#8211;it&#8217;s a huge organizational jungle to bring under control&#8211;and you&#8217;ve put it in a cutting edge format.  No question.  I particularly like the Projects Section&#8211;the use of graphics to emphasize the content. I can quickly see what&#8217;s there and the individual graphics give me a sense of the individuality of each project.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what would make it easier for me, I think.  More touches of color&#8211;highlights to quickly draw my eye where you&#8217;d like it to go and to differentiate categories of links&#8211;just as you have with the Projects section.</p>
<p>Give me a more obvious introduction to CHNM&#8211;I don&#8217;t see that introductory paragraph amid the many things to look at on the page, and if I am not going to that site deliberately, I might like the intro paragraph to be more obvious. Also, in some ways, it&#8217;s a marketing tool for the University, so I&#8217;d want to be sure the rationale was clear&#8211;brief, but clear. Maybe it just needs a header itself?</p>
<p>The masthead makes me think we&#8217;re a third world site&#8211;maybe just ditch the impossible task of summarizing world history and focus on the new media imagery or program imagery?</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t seem as if you fell short at all, especially for the first outing&#8230;it seems as if you tackled a gigantic project and one of the hardest kind to do, and brought a new perspective to it&#8211;that&#8217;s what makes it such a good one.</p>
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